New Ford EV teased

The place to discuss everything else..
Post Reply
DB74
Posts: 110
Joined: Thu May 04, 2023 3:36 pm
Location: Suffolk

Post by DB74 »

All I would say is that currently there are too many EV and charging issues to make it viable. Hopefully the technology will be better and more reliable if solid state batteries are used, although that maybe a few years away yet. Not only do the UK need to add more charging stations but they also need to upgrade the current ones, as the majority are slow chargers and it's no fun waiting in a queue for one knowing that the charge will also take sometime to complete.
Puma ST, Desert Island Blue with Driver Assistance Pack.

4251
Posts: 170
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:07 am

Post by 4251 »

.
Last edited by 4251 on Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
4251
Posts: 170
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:07 am

Post by 4251 »

4251 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:00 am Currently we have a maximum of 200 gigawatts of generating capacity, with down to 45% of that being available at some times. 33 million electric cars as some cuckoos expect by 2030+ would need 7500 watts average each while charging, thats forgetting 100’s of 50kw + charges in ever increasing numbers! thats 250 gigawatts if all were to plug in together, I know thats never going to happen. Even half would be more than the UK could generate at some times without any consumption elsewhere at all! That just exposes how far we are away from this dreamland without the other major hurdles. But you highlight a possible reality, the real plan is to seriously limit car ownership! Car ownership is currently increasing not decreasing.
User avatar
KevC
Posts: 109
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:30 am
Location: Oxford

Post by KevC »

ST-Line X 125 Auto in Magnetic Grey with rev cam, front sensors and heated seats. (Had an original Puma in '99 too)
F-Type V8 coupe!
4251
Posts: 170
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:07 am

Post by 4251 »

KevC wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:04 pm The National Grid seem to think you're wrong
https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/jo ... ctric-cars
https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/jo ... onceptions
Cant see any part of that which says I'm wrong, pretty useless information really: I quoted facts and that changes none of them whatsoever. It quotes theoretical bullshit
4251
Posts: 170
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:07 am

Post by 4251 »

Sparks wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 10:26 am I think it's best to agree to disagree as no one knows really what the future holds.
It doesn't really matter what the opinion is as to whether it will work or not, the only consolation will be that the naysayers can say 'I told you'.
Lets hope there are some with far more knowledge than us mere mortals on here working on it.... :) :D

You’re right. But the annoying thing is the real painful facts are ignored while theoretical bullshit is spouted at every opportunity and statements that only encompass part of the issue. Who owns the national grid? They have a vested interests in the massive increase in their business from electric vehicles, so will not ever be impartial!
User avatar
KevC
Posts: 109
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:30 am
Location: Oxford

Post by KevC »

"Even if we all switched to EVs overnight, we estimate demand would only increase by around 10%. So we’d still be using less power as a nation than we did in 2002 and this is well within the range the grid can capably handle."

You seem to be assuming everyone will charge 32m cars all at the same time. They're saying that isn't going to happen and efficiencies in current systems (demand is down 16% since 2002) and more energy production over time by the time we need it (which won't be at 00:01 on Jan 1st 2030) means it'll be fine.

Time will tell but it's the way we're going and they will have to deal with it. No one will stop you if you want to keep your petrol car (I'm keeping one of mine at least), but we are going electric (for now) whether we like it or not. People preaching about whether we can cope with the demand isn't going to stop it happening.
ST-Line X 125 Auto in Magnetic Grey with rev cam, front sensors and heated seats. (Had an original Puma in '99 too)
F-Type V8 coupe!
4251
Posts: 170
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:07 am

Post by 4251 »

KevC wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:13 pm "Even if we all switched to EVs overnight, we estimate demand would only increase by around 10%. So we’d still be using less power as a nation than we did in 2002 and this is well within the range the grid can capably handle."

You seem to be assuming everyone will charge 32m cars all at the same time. They're saying that isn't going to happen and efficiencies in current systems (demand is down 16% since 2002) and more energy production over time by the time we need it (which won't be at 00:01 on Jan 1st 2030) means it'll be fine.

Time will tell but it's the way we're going and they will have to deal with it. No one will stop you if you want to keep your petrol car (I'm keeping one of mine at least), but we are going electric (for now) whether we like it or not. People preaching about whether we can cope with the demand isn't going to stop it happening.
The simple maths is totally contrary. “They say” Who are they? the interested clueless cuckoos?
User avatar
Sparks
Posts: 4381
Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:40 pm
Location: Warwickshire

Post by Sparks »

4251 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:45 pm
KevC wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:13 pm "Even if we all switched to EVs overnight, we estimate demand would only increase by around 10%. So we’d still be using less power as a nation than we did in 2002 and this is well within the range the grid can capably handle."

You seem to be assuming everyone will charge 32m cars all at the same time. They're saying that isn't going to happen and efficiencies in current systems (demand is down 16% since 2002) and more energy production over time by the time we need it (which won't be at 00:01 on Jan 1st 2030) means it'll be fine.

Time will tell but it's the way we're going and they will have to deal with it. No one will stop you if you want to keep your petrol car (I'm keeping one of mine at least), but we are going electric (for now) whether we like it or not. People preaching about whether we can cope with the demand isn't going to stop it happening.
The simple maths is totally contrary. “They say” Who are they? the interested clueless cuckoos?
That could be you for all we know >🤷‍♂️......Seems to be going nowhere this discussion, like most it's just getting polarised. Lets reconvene in 5 years time to see where things are then eh?
Ford Puma ST-Line Vignale 155 Automatic.
Driver Assistance Pack. Power Tailgate etc. etc....Frozen White. 🚷🚳
Wireless Android Auto. 8-)
Previous Puma ST-Line X First Edition.
User avatar
Rizmo
Posts: 2553
Joined: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:13 pm
Location: Peterlee, Co Durham

Post by Rizmo »

Sparks wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:56 pm
4251 wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 7:45 pm
KevC wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 4:13 pm "Even if we all switched to EVs overnight, we estimate demand would only increase by around 10%. So we’d still be using less power as a nation than we did in 2002 and this is well within the range the grid can capably handle."

You seem to be assuming everyone will charge 32m cars all at the same time. They're saying that isn't going to happen and efficiencies in current systems (demand is down 16% since 2002) and more energy production over time by the time we need it (which won't be at 00:01 on Jan 1st 2030) means it'll be fine.

Time will tell but it's the way we're going and they will have to deal with it. No one will stop you if you want to keep your petrol car (I'm keeping one of mine at least), but we are going electric (for now) whether we like it or not. People preaching about whether we can cope with the demand isn't going to stop it happening.
The simple maths is totally contrary. “They say” Who are they? the interested clueless cuckoos?
That could be you for all we know >🤷‍♂️......Seems to be going nowhere this discussion, like most it's just getting polarised. Lets reconvene in 5 years time to see where things are then eh?
We should all share a bottle of Kraken and chill.
Puma ST-Line-Vignale 155 manual, magnetic grey, DAP, electric tailgate. New in December 2021(sold)
Post Reply