Thanks everyone.
Just asked my local ford mechanic to change the plugs next week. Will also ask him to run a diag while at it.
Engine jerking/stuttering under acceleration
Hi!Sparks wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:00 pmHi welcome to the forum. Where are you located?Fberlo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:43 am Hello all,
I have bought a used Puma ST from 2021, with 13k miles on the clock. Recently, the car has been stuttering/jerking under acceleration (heavy or light load, at highway cruising speed, happening once every 100-200 miles I would say, very randomly). Two-cylinder in eco/normal mode sometimes (3 times over 1000 miles) doesn't switch to 3 cylinder mode unless I downshift, but works normally otherwise.
No engine light or anything.
Cars runs great otherwise.
Maintenance with Oil change has been done twice since bought new, but owner's mechanic did not seem to change anything else other than that.
Question:
- could it be related to the sparkplugs? And Wouldn't I receive an EML in this case?
- Can't I just wait the next oil change next year to replace them?
I feel it's a bit unnecessary for it to go under maintenance once again, and changing plugs under 20k miles seems a bit hasty...
I would be very gratefull if anyone could advise me on this! Thanks !
Possible some dirty fuel has got into the tank.
I would say it's worth having it checked out.
I'm located in France. It's been occurring on both 98 and 95 octane fuel types.
Reading through this thread regarding spark plugs...and my personal opinion is that it is ridiculous to change spark plugs every 12 months/12500 miles. I could understand it if it was an exotic car in a high state of tune...but its just a run of the mill Ford.
My car will have covered less than 3000 miles at 1 year old and I will be amazed if they routinely change the plugs.
My car will have covered less than 3000 miles at 1 year old and I will be amazed if they routinely change the plugs.
2023 Puma ST (1.5 200PS), Desert Island Blue with Driver Assistance Pack.
It’s a 3 pot producing 200 BHP, complying with all sorts of emissions limits - I’d say that’s a fairly high state of tuneRon240 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:21 am Reading through this thread regarding spark plugs...and my personal opinion is that it is ridiculous to change spark plugs every 12 months/12500 miles. I could understand it if it was an exotic car in a high state of tune...but its just a run of the mill Ford.
My car will have covered less than 3000 miles at 1 year old and I will be amazed if they routinely change the plugs.
OP: how'd you know when it's in 2 cylinder mode? I've done 25K mi in mine, a good portion of them motorway, and I'd confidently say it has never deactivated a cylinder.
Puma ST (Performance Pack) in Mean Green
Using the link posted earlier in this thread the following 2 points are stated for every service in the 'Under Hood' category.
undefined Remove and install for access to spark plugs ("(use torque ", spark-plug-coil-torque, " Nm)")
undefined Renew ("(use torque ", spark-plug-torque, " Nm)")
It would be much clearer and easy to understand if it said renew spark plugs in the same sentence.
I have a 2 service plan already paid upfront, and as I said earlier I will be amazed if they change my plugs when I take it in for the first service.
First service is due end of June so naturally I will report back at that time.
undefined Remove and install for access to spark plugs ("(use torque ", spark-plug-coil-torque, " Nm)")
undefined Renew ("(use torque ", spark-plug-torque, " Nm)")
It would be much clearer and easy to understand if it said renew spark plugs in the same sentence.
I have a 2 service plan already paid upfront, and as I said earlier I will be amazed if they change my plugs when I take it in for the first service.
First service is due end of June so naturally I will report back at that time.
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2023 Puma ST (1.5 200PS), Desert Island Blue with Driver Assistance Pack.
Same here if it is doing this on a journey I’m certainly not noticing it, if it’s on the ST at allmatthen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:34 amIt’s a 3 pot producing 200 BHP, complying with all sorts of emissions limits - I’d say that’s a fairly high state of tuneRon240 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:21 am Reading through this thread regarding spark plugs...and my personal opinion is that it is ridiculous to change spark plugs every 12 months/12500 miles. I could understand it if it was an exotic car in a high state of tune...but its just a run of the mill Ford.
My car will have covered less than 3000 miles at 1 year old and I will be amazed if they routinely change the plugs.
OP: how'd you know when it's in 2 cylinder mode? I've done 25K mi in mine, a good portion of them motorway, and I'd confidently say it has never deactivated a cylinder.
Old thread here viewtopic.php?t=1212
ST Performance Grey Matter (Performance Pack / Drivers Assistance Pack / Dark Wheels & Power Tailgate)
Well when cruising and barely touching the gas pedal, the engine is a bit louder with a slight vibration. Instant fuel consumption drops significanlty.FP2022F1T wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:06 amSame here if it is doing this on a journey I’m certainly not noticing it, if it’s on the ST at allmatthen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:34 amIt’s a 3 pot producing 200 BHP, complying with all sorts of emissions limits - I’d say that’s a fairly high state of tuneRon240 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:21 am Reading through this thread regarding spark plugs...and my personal opinion is that it is ridiculous to change spark plugs every 12 months/12500 miles. I could understand it if it was an exotic car in a high state of tune...but its just a run of the mill Ford.
My car will have covered less than 3000 miles at 1 year old and I will be amazed if they routinely change the plugs.
OP: how'd you know when it's in 2 cylinder mode? I've done 25K mi in mine, a good portion of them motorway, and I'd confidently say it has never deactivated a cylinder.
Old thread here viewtopic.php?t=1212
It happens way more in eco mode, never in sport mode. Once you press the gas pedal 1 or 2 cm more, or going slightly uphill, it switches to 3 cylinder (engine sound changes a bit, less virbations)...
Ok perhaps explains it never used ECO apart from when it snowedFberlo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:58 pmWell when cruising and barely touching the gas pedal, the engine is a bit louder with a slight vibration. Instant fuel consumption drops significanlty.FP2022F1T wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:06 amSame here if it is doing this on a journey I’m certainly not noticing it, if it’s on the ST at allmatthen wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:34 am
It’s a 3 pot producing 200 BHP, complying with all sorts of emissions limits - I’d say that’s a fairly high state of tune
OP: how'd you know when it's in 2 cylinder mode? I've done 25K mi in mine, a good portion of them motorway, and I'd confidently say it has never deactivated a cylinder.
Old thread here viewtopic.php?t=1212
It happens way more in eco mode, never in sport mode. Once you press the gas pedal 1 or 2 cm more, or going slightly uphill, it switches to 3 cylinder (engine sound changes a bit, less virbations)...
Will try this out on my way home from work later
ST Performance Grey Matter (Performance Pack / Drivers Assistance Pack / Dark Wheels & Power Tailgate)