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LePatrick wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:56 pm Ok...finally managed to drive both cars...I went to see one with LSD (the car...not me) at the weekend and one without today. Yes, there is a difference but I don't think it is really pronounced. The car handles beautifully at the limit and I was lucky (on both occasions) to be given the keys without supervision. I think the car needs more power to warrant the LSD. I think another 50bhp.

One last point, I was surprised that both cars I saw had condensation on the rear light. Is it something common? The dealer seems to imply that they all do it...but he had a few pumas that did not have this issue.
The main advantage isn’t directly related to performance but to the extra traction you get out of slippery corners and steering control. Also traction pulling away up hills with a bit of weight in the back is hugely/massively improved. Yes there is pseudo brake activated traction but it’s much inferior. Personally I wouldn’t be without it if it’s available, be ticked well before useless things like glass sunroof’s etc.

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LePatrick wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:56 pm Ok...finally managed to drive both cars...I went to see one with LSD (the car...not me) at the weekend and one without today. Yes, there is a difference but I don't think it is really pronounced. The car handles beautifully at the limit and I was lucky (on both occasions) to be given the keys without supervision. I think the car needs more power to warrant the LSD. I think another 50bhp.

One last point, I was surprised that both cars I saw had condensation on the rear light. Is it something common? The dealer seems to imply that they all do it...but he had a few pumas that did not have this issue.
Much like the windows on an passenger aircraft the rear lens on the Puma has a tiny hole in order to stabilise temp and mositure allowing any condensation to easily disapate. So yes some misting it is common on the Pumas rear lens. In a aircraft the tiny hole is only present on the interior cabin transparency and obviously not in the external pressure window. Nevertheless the result are the similar... Condensation is kept to a minimum.
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4251 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:33 pm
LePatrick wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:56 pm Ok...finally managed to drive both cars...I went to see one with LSD (the car...not me) at the weekend and one without today. Yes, there is a difference but I don't think it is really pronounced. The car handles beautifully at the limit and I was lucky (on both occasions) to be given the keys without supervision. I think the car needs more power to warrant the LSD. I think another 50bhp.

One last point, I was surprised that both cars I saw had condensation on the rear light. Is it something common? The dealer seems to imply that they all do it...but he had a few pumas that did not have this issue.
The main advantage isn’t directly related to performance but to the extra traction you get out of slippery corners and steering control. Also traction pulling away up hills with a bit of weight in the back is hugely/massively improved. Yes there is pseudo brake activated traction but it’s much inferior. Personally I wouldn’t be without it if it’s available, be ticked well before useless things like glass sunroof’s etc.
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In your humble opinion I guess.
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LePatrick wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:26 pmThanks...is it covered by warranty?
Misting that clears itself is not covered by warranty, but when water droplets form inside the lens then this usually is.
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LePatrick wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:56 pm Ok...finally managed to drive both cars...I went to see one with LSD (the car...not me) at the weekend and one without today. Yes, there is a difference but I don't think it is really pronounced. The car handles beautifully at the limit and I was lucky (on both occasions) to be given the keys without supervision. I think the car needs more power to warrant the LSD. I think another 50bhp.

One last point, I was surprised that both cars I saw had condensation on the rear light. Is it something common? The dealer seems to imply that they all do it...but he had a few pumas that did not have this issue.
mine used to get misting in the front lights after washing it, disappeared fairly quickly, never the rear though?

regarding the LSD for me it would come down to the condition of the cars/ price - if very similar go for the LSD one, ultimately it comes down to personal preference and driving style, it might also be worth more when you come to sell it.
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