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4251 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:43 pmI could easily have an M3 as my only car.
But could you easily live with the cost of fuel? ;)
That 530hp engine in the current M3 saloon together with all wheel drive will be very thirsty.
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Ron240 wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:44 pm
4251 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:43 pmI could easily have an M3 as my only car.
But could you easily live with the cost of fuel? ;)
That 530hp engine in the current M3 saloon together with all wheel drive will be very thirsty.
Yes no problem at all. My F80 M3 which I got new late 2018 averaged 32mpg, was about 35mpg running it in (painfully!) I wouldn’t get a 4wd version, has to be rwd. Think the worst tank cycle I got was 29mpg, My ST Focus Fords have only got a few more mpg on average. Difference is not worth bothering about. I took the Puma for a spin last night after not driving it for a while, the wife has been averaging 35.6 mpg the last 1350 miles, thats about 5 down on my summer use of it. There are people who bang on about the mk2 ST’s (certainly not me) who get low 20’s constantly and class that as acceptable and they are mostly their only cars
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4251 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:01 pm
Ron240 wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:44 pm
4251 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 6:43 pmI could easily have an M3 as my only car.
But could you easily live with the cost of fuel? ;)
That 530hp engine in the current M3 saloon together with all wheel drive will be very thirsty.
Yes no problem at all. My F80 M3 which I got new late 2018 averaged 32mpg, was about 35mpg running it in (painfully!) I wouldn’t get a 4wd version, has to be rwd.
I was referring to the current model M3 which is xDrive only, so you would need to buy an older less powerful one if you wanted RWD.
BMW quote 28mpg for the WLTP combined figure, which will mean that most owners living with it on a daily basis will see around 20mpg on anything other than a long run.
The saloon retails at £87k before any options, so monthly payments will be MUCH more than the average persons mortgage living outside of London. :shock:
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Ron240 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:20 pm
4251 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:01 pm
Ron240 wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:44 pm But could you easily live with the cost of fuel? ;)
That 530hp engine in the current M3 saloon together with all wheel drive will be very thirsty.
Yes no problem at all. My F80 M3 which I got new late 2018 averaged 32mpg, was about 35mpg running it in (painfully!) I wouldn’t get a 4wd version, has to be rwd.
I was referring to the current model M3 which is xDrive only, so you would need to buy an older less powerful one if you wanted RWD.
BMW quote 28mpg for the WLTP combined figure, which will mean that most owners living with it on a daily basis will see around 20mpg on anything other than a long run.
The saloon retails at £87k before any options, so monthly payments will be MUCH more than the average persons mortgage living outside of London. :shock:
Less powerful at the crank but nothing in it at the wheels. The F80 CP always dyno’d around 475hp. No drop on consumption with wltp rating, I always get bang on wltp easily and a few higher also easily achievable. I would expect 28-30 out of the 4wd. I was referring to M3, which was still available rwd last time I looked, albeit a while ago now, so no longer available? I would get another F80 tbh would never want xdrive or the slushbox.

Funny isn’t it, I had a 1988 Orion Ghia i , it got 30mpg with 105hp, used to think that was great! Most cars like my 2.0 Cortina’s etc used to get 27/28
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4251 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 4:33 pmLess powerful at the crank but nothing in it at the wheels. The F80 CP always dyno’d around 475hp. No drop on consumption with wltp rating, I always get bang on wltp easily and a few higher also easily achievable. I would expect 28-30 out of the 4wd. I was referring to M3, which was still available rwd last time I looked, albeit a while ago now, so no longer available? I would get another F80 tbh would never want xdrive

Funny isn’t it, I had a 1988 Orion Ghia i , it got 30mpg with 105hp, used to think that was great! Most cars like my 2.0 Cortina’s etc used to get 27/28
Yes only 2 M3 models available to factory order now...
M3 Competition Saloon with 530hp
M3 CS Touring with 551hp
Just dont ask my why the estate model has the more powerful engine and costs £36k more. :o

Funnily enough I had a 1989 Orion GLSi and was impressed by the performance from the 105hp engine. :lol:
Equal or often better fuel economy from massively more powerful engines is very impressive now.
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Ron240 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 4:46 pm
4251 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 4:33 pmLess powerful at the crank but nothing in it at the wheels. The F80 CP always dyno’d around 475hp. No drop on consumption with wltp rating, I always get bang on wltp easily and a few higher also easily achievable. I would expect 28-30 out of the 4wd. I was referring to M3, which was still available rwd last time I looked, albeit a while ago now, so no longer available? I would get another F80 tbh would never want xdrive

Funny isn’t it, I had a 1988 Orion Ghia i , it got 30mpg with 105hp, used to think that was great! Most cars like my 2.0 Cortina’s etc used to get 27/28
Yes only 2 M3 models available to factory order now...
M3 Competition Saloon with 530hp
M3 CS Touring with 551hp
Just dont ask my why the estate model has the more powerful engine and costs £36k more. :o

Funnily enough I had a 1989 Orion GLSi and was impressed by the performance from the 105hp engine. :lol:
Equal or often better fuel economy from massively more powerful engines is very impressive now.
Yours would have been the efi version they made for the last year or so of the Mk2, Lucus ecu’s or was it Hitachi ??? that were very sensitive, mine was the Bosch K tronic system, performance was the same though, but yours probably 1 or 2 mpg more. They were light cars in comparison but felt quick at the time, 9.7 0 - 60! The new cars are impressive considering they weigh twice as much.
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