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I found using sport mode around the city seems to hold it in a lower gear for longer.
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AFAIK it's just the computer remapping the engine basically, which as said gives more at less pedal travel. In automatics I think it also alters the gear change.
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Sparks wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 8:11 am AFAIK it's just the computer remapping the engine basically, which as said gives more at less pedal travel. In automatics I think it also alters the gear change.
Whatever.......It's fun to use..... :lol:
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Yep I think you might be right Sparks, you can change modes whilst driving and changing modes from normal to sport, accelerator pedal in position, no more pressure on pedal the car does accelerate more...and it does hold the gear longer!!
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MadTruckeer wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 8:52 amyou can change modes whilst driving and changing modes from normal to sport, accelerator pedal in position, no more pressure on pedal the car does accelerate more...and it does hold the gear longer!!
This is because when changing to Sport more fuel is being supplied to the engine at the same throttle position.
The same result would be achieved in Normal with marginally more pressure applied to the throttle, but exactly the same maximum is achieved in both modes.
Yes you are correct about an auto gearbox holding onto a gear longer on the upchange in Sport mode and also being quicker to downchange, so this is why putting an auto in Sport mode in an urban environment will use more fuel compared with Normal mode because higher revs will be used for a longer period of time.
My previous auto had Sport and Sport+ modes, and particularly with the latter would never get out of the lower gears while driving around town. It could be enjoyable in small doses, but ultimately tiring and more expensive.
It was reserved for boy racers IMO. :lol:
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Seriously, after over 60 years of driving cars an motorbikes, no one is going to tell me that I cannot tell the difference between a vehicle which is accelerating more quickly than one which is not and that I am simply being conned into thinking that it is accelerating more swiftly. I know the difference. So when I select Sport mode I know that the ecu has been reprogrammed to give more low-down torque ant that I can accelerate more quickly out of bends in that mode than in standard mode. The difference is amazing. It’s plainly not a case of pushing the accelerater pedal down further: it’s a really different experience.
I can accept that the top speed won’t change, but the “pick up” is significantly better in sport mode, certainly at lower road speeds , such as when accelerating out of a bend on a country road, of which we have many in my location.
There wouldn’t be much point in Ford providing a Sport mode if it served no purpose other than to con drivers into thinking it was doing something.
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MrT wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 8:24 pm There wouldn’t be much point in Ford providing a Sport mode if it served no purpose other than to con drivers into thinking it was doing something.
Nobody said it doesn't do anything :)
I've had a few 'fast Fords' with the most recent being Focus ST's and I can assure you that no more power or torque is available when selecting Sport mode.
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I’m not really concerned about the theoretical statistics, so much as what happens in real life. I have read that in theory a bumble bee is too heavy to fly. But it does fly, so what does that tell you about the theory? My car accelerates much more quickly in sport mode, certainly in the examples I have given, than in normal mode, so theoretical statistics that say it doesn’t must be wrong.
You know what has often been said: “there are lies, damned lies and statistics”. I will look up who said that! I am not suggesting that anyone is telling lies in this case, quite the opposite, but I am saying that statistics may not tell the whole story.
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It seems that the quotation “There are lies, damned lies an d statistics “ is generally attributed to that extremely clever 19th century century prime minister, Benjamin Disraeli.
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Stop watch on 0-60 anyone for sport Vs normal.
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Sparks wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 8:11 am AFAIK it's just the computer remapping the engine basically, which as said gives more at less pedal travel. In automatics I think it also alters the gear change.
Whatever.......It's fun to use..... :lol:
No remapping going on. It is simply a recalibration of the potentiometer on the throttle pedal, but full throttle is absolutely identical no matter what mode your in. I only use it to get rid of that naff boring blue dash. On automatics it does do more as it makes gear changes move up the rev range further, but usually us annoying as it hangs on to lower gears for too long, BUT put your foot to the floor in an automatic and the car will accelerate and change gear exactly the ssme wether in sport or normal!
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