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How do these work?

If they rely on embedded GpS data and front cameras, they miss signs (or misrepresent reality) too often to be reliable - both up and down vs the true limit.

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Are 2023 Pumas already fitted with the speed limiter software, which could be activated by an official Ford update during a service at a main dealer? If so, I would want to instruct the dealer not to download any updates and if they said it is a compulsory part of the service I would want to consider having a service by my reliable local garage.
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Do 2023 Pumas already have the speed limiter software installed, which might be activated by an official Ford download, during a service by a main dealer?
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Chances are the new Puma with sync 4 will have it by default. The new Kuga with sync 4 has it now.
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After looking I believe all pumas have it, certainly on my Vignale their is already has intelligent speed limiter, it comes alongside the intelligent cruise control that works the same.
The legislation won't have been a surprise for the motor industry and they will have been implementing it for some time.
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Yes all Pumas have a 'LIM' (limit) button on the cruise control cluster and it will set the limit for the road you are currently driving on.
The new legislation applies only to vehicles manufactured after a certain date and is not applied retrospectively, so nobody needs to worry about their older car coming back from the dealer after a service with this new software installed.
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Ron240 wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 8:42 am Yes all Pumas have a 'LIM' (limit) button on the cruise control cluster and it will set the limit for the road you are currently driving on.
The new legislation applies only to vehicles manufactured after a certain date and is not applied retrospectively, so nobody needs to worry about their older car coming back from the dealer after a service with this new software installed.
Ron, quoting Auto Car "all new cars that are launching or have been launched in the European market (including the UK) need to be fitted with an Intelligent Speed Assist (ISA) by 7 July 2024 according to the 2019/2044 regulation by the European Commission. This means any existing unregistered cars on forecourts will have to be retrofitted with a speed limiter before they can be sold"
Yes the current Puma has a "LIM" button, but that can be switched on/off. However under the new rules the system (for new cars) will be back ON every time you start the engine. For now at least and on these new cars it will still be possible for it to be overridden or switched off. But that concession is likely to be changed in future.
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Nice article here, explaining it for numpties....Sorry, I mean us laymen.... ;)
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/content/ne ... fresh=true
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I think they trialled speed limiters at last weekends GP from Monaco.
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Rays1 wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 5:38 pm Ron, quoting Auto Car "all new cars that are launching or have been launched in the European market (including the UK) need to be fitted with an Intelligent Speed Assist (ISA) by 7 July 2024 according to the 2019/2044 regulation by the European Commission. This means any existing unregistered cars on forecourts will have to be retrofitted with a speed limiter before they can be sold"
Yes the current Puma has a "LIM" button, but that can be switched on/off. However under the new rules the system (for new cars) will be back ON every time you start the engine. For now at least and on these new cars it will still be possible for it to be overridden or switched off. But that concession is likely to be changed in future.
Yep I'm aware of all that. :)
I just said manufactured after a certain date meaning to include unregistered vehicles too.
The main point I was making was to reassure anybody thinking that it will be applied retrospectively to their vehicle.
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