Speed limiters from 7th July 24.

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New cars sold in the UK from 7th July 24 will have to be fitted with Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA) Speed Limiters. Do the many ordering a new car will be aware I wonder. In for a shock I think and does the current Puma brochure suggests anything.

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I guess you will be able to turn them off initially, but they will probably come on at every ignition cycle as opposed to the one already in the Puma which you have to turn on if you want it.
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Sparks wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 7:21 pm I guess you will be able to turn them off initially, but they will probably come on at every ignition cycle as opposed to the one already in the Puma which you have to turn on if you want it.
What I have read ... apparently not. You can override it if necessary (pressing the pedal) but not continually. It had to come I guess, but with old and new cars on the road at the same time that just doesn't fit well.
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If it's like the original proposal of a few years ago, you get a beeper when you go over the limit and the acceleration pauses but you can just push the accelerator more to carry on.

Another nannying item that it would be nice to be able to turn off. The simplest way is for makers to have a driver 'profile' where you can select what things you want on and off (as well as seat, mirror and dash layout positions) and just select that with one button but I doubt they'll be allowed to do that.
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Rays1 wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 7:27 pm
Sparks wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 7:21 pm I guess you will be able to turn them off initially, but they will probably come on at every ignition cycle as opposed to the one already in the Puma which you have to turn on if you want it.
What I have read ... apparently not. You can override it if necessary (pressing the pedal) but not continually. It had to come I guess, but with old and new cars on the road at the same time that just doesn't fit well.
As long as it can be overridden, otherwise it would be dangerous i.e overtaking. I read that overriding it with the pedal will keep it deactivated until the next ignition cycle.
I may be wrong, we'll have to see. It'll be a nightmare around Tesco's car park :) :lol: ...
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Are the EU countries adopting it as well?
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MrT wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 8:24 pm Are the EU countries adopting it as well?
Apparently they already have.
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A big problem with the limiter on my Puma is that it often reads the 20 mph signs on side roads when I am travelling down a main road with a limit of 40. The car abruptly slows down, so I flick the off switch. Also I go up a couple of motorway slip roads where the limit is 70 but the car will not let me accelerate as it is showing 40 in the instrument cluster.

Often I get confused as I have seen no speed limit signs and the car is saying 30 mph whilst android auto is saying 40 mph.

These things are all well and good so long as they work and as far as I can see, they get it wrong quite frequently.
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MrT wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 8:24 pm Are the EU countries adopting it as well?
It's an EU regulation, so yes.
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cianpars wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 8:49 pm A big problem with the limiter on my Puma is that it often reads the 20 mph signs on side roads when I am travelling down a main road with a limit of 40. The car abruptly slows down, so I flick the off switch. Also I go up a couple of motorway slip roads where the limit is 70 but the car will not let me accelerate as it is showing 40 in the instrument cluster.

Often I get confused as I have seen no speed limit signs and the car is saying 30 mph whilst android auto is saying 40 mph.

These things are all well and good so long as they work and as far as I can see, they get it wrong quite frequently.
Never used it on my Puma, (I must see what it does). To be honest I find it pointless as it's presently implemented. I much prefer to put Intelligent auto cruise on and let it do it's thing.
then it's easy to sort out any misread sections without the sudden slow down.
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