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I had to put snow tyres on my Mazda 6 when I drove to Austria a few years back in March. It's mandatory over there between something like end of October through to April. You can leave summer tyres on providing you carry chains. You can't fit chains on that particular car.

This Mazda was absolute 💩 in snow and I did hit snow when driving in the mountains one day. The snow tyres completely transformed the car in snow to a level I would never have believed.

Where I live we rarely get a flutter of snow. When it snowed bad in 2010, the city was gridlocked. Nobody moving anywhere.

I put all seasons on the Kuga as there was a chance we do the odd Scottish trip in winter. Otherwise I wouldn't have bothered. If I lived somewhere where there was a lot of snow I wouldn't bother with all seasons and just have a set of full winter tyres. Winters have better grip in snow with 2WD than a 4x4 or AWD fitted with summer tyres.
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Both of our Puma155s came fitted with Goodyear Efficient Grip mark2 tyres. I have had to replace 2, one because it had a thorn I the side wall, as a result of farmers cutting hedges. In both cases I replaced them with identical specced tyres except the new ones are XL. The originals have a tread wear rating of 240; the XLs are rated at 360.
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MrT wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 1:30 pm Both of our Puma155s came fitted with Goodyear Efficient Grip mark2 tyres. I have had to replace 2, one because it had a thorn I the side wall, as a result of farmers cutting hedges. In both cases I replaced them with identical specced tyres except the new ones are XL. The originals have a tread wear rating of 240; the XLs are rated at 360.
I came from cross climate 2s on the fiesta to those Goodyears on my Puma and have to say they have been great. Will probably just replace the with the same when the time comes.
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Thus was a good watch

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That was a good watch...very interesting. :geek:
At the end I was hoping to see how the PS4S compared with competitor tyres like what was shown for the Primacy 4+ and PS5.
The tyres on my car are Continental SportContact 7 which I am assuming will be a direct competitor for the PS4S, but not quite as good.
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FP2022F1T wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 5:14 pm Not even sure if the cross climate Michelins are recommended on the ST for handling all year round

Garage I use decided not to recommend them and to stick with the Michelin pilot sport 4s XL FP as Ford recommends

Thing is in snow I drive carefully slowly and take corners not at speed and drive to the conditions and use eco mode to assist lowering throttle response

I get what the poster is saying but with majority driving on standard tyres some budget with the cost of living crisis, the chances are more that you’ll be wiped out by another car than you on the all weather tyres

Just drive to conditions slow down use higher gears and leave gaps and if it’s very bad don’t go out in it
I can also see those tread patterns wearing out fast or degrading on the ST if I dared fit them at all
Only time you would notice the advantage of PS4s over cross climates is driving near the limit in the dry (probably less than 10% on here ever do) normal driving virtually zero difference. But during winter or at temps below 8 deg the cross climates will out perform PS4s often by a large margin and blow them away in icy and snowy conditions, PS4s in those conditions are borderline dangerous. So it depends when you drive and the climate you drive in.

Oh and by the way, the Ford specific PS4s are biassed towards dry performance, the wet performance is inferior to the standard aftermarket PS4s tyres, The cross climates have similar wet weather performance to the ford ps4s but inferior to the the standard aftermarket ps4s, in warm conditions.
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FP2022F1T wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 7:32 pm Thus was a good watch

Yes, one of the most informative sources of tyre data. Usually proves the general “this better than that” is usually a lot more complicated and precise. Tyres are biassed in all different directions, UUHP brilliant in dry in summer, poor in wet and cold, eco tyres : poor for grip etc but get 1 or 2 more mpg and cheap usually Chinese tyres, can be dangerous if driven with enthusiasm!
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Ron240 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2024 7:50 am That was a good watch...very interesting. :geek:
At the end I was hoping to see how the PS4S compared with competitor tyres like what was shown for the Primacy 4+ and PS5.
The tyres on my car are Continental SportContact 7 which I am assuming will be a direct competitor for the PS4S, but not quite as good.

Something like this


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FP2022F1T wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:13 amSomething like this
That was another interesting watch. :)
They were testing the PremiumContact 7 while mine is the SportContact 7.
From what I have been able to find online the SportContact is the higher performing tyre while the PremiumContact offers better tread life.
I have mentioned previously about the SportContact 6 tyres that were fitted to a previous car having truly abysmal tread life.
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My son had Hankook on his fiesta St and they cracked really quickly, had them swapped for Bridgestones and they lasted ages
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