Smartguy67 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:05 pm
We would have a Toyota CH-R sat outside if my wife's only request hadn't been for a heated front screen. When you previously have a car that froze on the inside it's time to get something different. It wasn't an old car either. Vauxhall Mokka owned from 11 months old and always was the same. Condensation really bad too. No leaks, new pollen filter made no difference. Spoke to two other owners and theirs the same as ours.
Heated screen is pretty pointless, very rarely ever use it, never get condensation problems, but I do keep A/C off and never heard of those problems with any Vauxhall or any other car. something else was causing that, maybe over use or method of use of the A/C There’s a long list of far better cars than a Puma and I wouldn’t include Toyota’s personally. People just need to take off the 70’s blue tinted worn out spectacles. The car itself is based on what is now a dated Fiesta platform, the current interior design and style is imho, awful, the build quality and materials used are as low quality as you can get, the engine is a ticking timebomb (blown engines from oil pump wet belt failure are occurring ) manual gearboxes made of chocolate and the powershift autos have a hideous reputation, and the overall reliability of most of the rest is poor. I am looking to get rid of our 200ST as don’t have a lot of confidence in that long term. Other than that they are a great car , must be …. cos they are a Ford
Smartguy67 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:05 pm
We would have a Toyota CH-R sat outside if my wife's only request hadn't been for a heated front screen. When you previously have a car that froze on the inside it's time to get something different. It wasn't an old car either. Vauxhall Mokka owned from 11 months old and always was the same. Condensation really bad too. No leaks, new pollen filter made no difference. Spoke to two other owners and theirs the same as ours.
Heated screen is pretty pointless, very rarely ever use it, never get condensation problems, but I do keep A/C off and never heard of those problems with any Vauxhall or any other car. something else was causing that, maybe over use or method of use of the A/C There’s a long list of far better cars than a Puma and I wouldn’t include Toyota’s personally. People just need to take off the 70’s blue tinted worn out spectacles. The car itself is based on what is now a dated Fiesta platform, the current interior design and style is imho, awful, the build quality and materials used are as low quality as you can get, the engine is a ticking timebomb (blown engines from oil pump wet belt failure are occurring ) manual gearboxes made of chocolate and the powershift autos have a hideous reputation, and the overall reliability of most of the rest is poor. I am looking to get rid of our 200ST as don’t have a lot of confidence in that long term. Other than that they are a great car , must be …. cos they are a Ford
Heated front screens being pointless is just your opinion and not ours. I take it you have never owned a Mokka because of you had, it may just be a requirement for your next car. And besides it was my wife's main request and to completely ignore that is dangerous territory.
Smartguy67 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:05 pm
We would have a Toyota CH-R sat outside if my wife's only request hadn't been for a heated front screen. When you previously have a car that froze on the inside it's time to get something different. It wasn't an old car either. Vauxhall Mokka owned from 11 months old and always was the same. Condensation really bad too. No leaks, new pollen filter made no difference. Spoke to two other owners and theirs the same as ours.
Heated screen is pretty pointless, very rarely ever use it, never get condensation problems, but I do keep A/C off and never heard of those problems with any Vauxhall or any other car. something else was causing that, maybe over use or method of use of the A/C There’s a long list of far better cars than a Puma and I wouldn’t include Toyota’s personally. People just need to take off the 70’s blue tinted worn out spectacles. The car itself is based on what is now a dated Fiesta platform, the current interior design and style is imho, awful, the build quality and materials used are as low quality as you can get, the engine is a ticking timebomb (blown engines from oil pump wet belt failure are occurring ) manual gearboxes made of chocolate and the powershift autos have a hideous reputation, and the overall reliability of most of the rest is poor. I am looking to get rid of our 200ST as don’t have a lot of confidence in that long term. Other than that they are a great car , must be …. cos they are a Ford
Heated front screens being pointless is just your opinion and not ours. I take it you have never owned a Mokka because of you had, it may just be a requirement for your next car. And besides it was my wife's main request and to completely ignore that is dangerous territory.
No, but I know a couple of people that do and asked one of them I see regularly who has had two, the old gm one and currently the PSA new one which co-incidentally is a lovely little car, he has never had any issues whatsoever. Steaming up is either coming from the a/c or a water leak or incorrect operation of the ventilation.
I have no light in my glovebox, but I do love the heated screen - had it in a Focus years ago, so was looking forward to having it again. It worked a treat the week! (I've never had a heated wheel before now - what a bonus!!)
Puma ST Facelift in Desert Island Blue, with removable towbar and black roof/styling. Love it
Heated screen is pretty pointless, very rarely ever use it, never get condensation problems, but I do keep A/C off and never heard of those problems with any Vauxhall or any other car. something else was causing that, maybe over use or method of use of the A/C There’s a long list of far better cars than a Puma and I wouldn’t include Toyota’s personally. People just need to take off the 70’s blue tinted worn out spectacles. The car itself is based on what is now a dated Fiesta platform, the current interior design and style is imho, awful, the build quality and materials used are as low quality as you can get, the engine is a ticking timebomb (blown engines from oil pump wet belt failure are occurring ) manual gearboxes made of chocolate and the powershift autos have a hideous reputation, and the overall reliability of most of the rest is poor. I am looking to get rid of our 200ST as don’t have a lot of confidence in that long term. Other than that they are a great car , must be …. cos they are a Ford
Heated front screens being pointless is just your opinion and not ours. I take it you have never owned a Mokka because of you had, it may just be a requirement for your next car. And besides it was my wife's main request and to completely ignore that is dangerous territory.
No, but I know a couple of people that do and asked one of them I see regularly who has had two, the old gm one and currently the PSA new one which co-incidentally is a lovely little car, he has never had any issues whatsoever. Steaming up is either coming from the a/c or a water leak or incorrect operation of the ventilation.
Believe me it was bad on the Mokka. I thought my wife was exaggerating until one frosty morning early this year we couldn't use the Kuga for some reason and got in hers. Ice on the inside but even when it was just cold it would be dripping wet. No water in the car, mats dry etc. It seems some vauxhalls had issues with water getting in the heating system. Maybe that's what it was. It's also parked out of the sun all day and not driven every day. My Kuga is old now and that steams up but it's never frozen on the inside. Not had that since the 80's lol.
The Puma is a very expensive Fiesta, that is no doubt but for those of us older in years getting in a lower car becomes a problem. My daughter has a Focus and I find that hard to get in and out of. The Puma is just about ok. It's not that bad a car but there are better ones agreed but we don't know yet if we are keeping this car or not. If we do it will be well looked after and have manufacturers warranty for as long as we can buy it. If the worst happens there are plenty of these in the breakers so spares will be around for a long time yet.
I had a lot of trouble convincing my wife that cars were getting lower as the Mokka is taller but eventually got her to sit in a Puma and the rest is history. A bit annoying really as last year we went to look at a Mazda CX3 Sport and CHR but she said both were too low. Shame as the Mazda isn't the best looking but 2 litre petrol, a proper engine in my book and should give better longevity.
We have entered back into the new car market now and this is maybe where we will stay for a while until I retire and then thinking about dropping to one car. What that one car will be I don't know as I prefer a bigger car.
One thing ive never found is looking at a Puma and thinking it is a good looking car, the front is gross ugly the rear ok. And the interior - especially new version - improves nothing. Similar to original Puma, that was an unappealing car too. Maybe because I think the ugliest car ever to the point I want to puke is the 1st gen Juke, that is one hell of an ugly car and the Puma does resemble it. New model Juke isn’t so bad. The Mazda CX3, yes vastly superior is very nice apart from the stupid ugly plastic things around the wheel arches, I know of a chap who got them painted body colour before he collected it! The real stand out cars for looks these days are Renault, Peugeot and some Kia/Hyundai versions.
Yes I hear the thing about getting in and out, and the slightly better leg room jacked up cars can give if it’s required. But all else about a conventional hatchback is better. Drive and economy being the most obvious, so a couple of seconds getting in and out isn’t an issue to me. Never was for 100 years.
The freezing (any car will freeze on inside if its damp and below 0) and condensation is weird and had to be a leak somewhere or the condenser was ( if your a a/c permanently on person) collecting large amounts of water due to your area, just a more powerful a/c. Fix is simple, turn it off apart from on hot days! Would you put your house a/c on in winter if you had it?
Smartguy67 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:05 pm
We would have a Toyota CH-R sat outside if my wife's only request hadn't been for a heated front screen. When you previously have a car that froze on the inside it's time to get something different. It wasn't an old car either. Vauxhall Mokka owned from 11 months old and always was the same. Condensation really bad too. No leaks, new pollen filter made no difference. Spoke to two other owners and theirs the same as ours.
Heated screen is pretty pointless, very rarely ever use it, never get condensation problems, but I do keep A/C off and never heard of those problems with any Vauxhall or any other car. something else was causing that, maybe over use or method of use of the A/C There’s a long list of far better cars than a Puma and I wouldn’t include Toyota’s personally. People just need to take off the 70’s blue tinted worn out spectacles. The car itself is based on what is now a dated Fiesta platform, the current interior design and style is imho, awful, the build quality and materials used are as low quality as you can get, the engine is a ticking timebomb (blown engines from oil pump wet belt failure are occurring ) manual gearboxes made of chocolate and the powershift autos have a hideous reputation, and the overall reliability of most of the rest is poor. I am looking to get rid of our 200ST as don’t have a lot of confidence in that long term. Other than that they are a great car , must be …. cos they are a Ford
Reminds me of that old chestnut "Apart from that Mrs Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play ?"
4251 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:51 am
One thing ive never found is looking at a Puma and thinking it is a good looking car, the front is gross ugly the rear ok. And the interior - especially new version - improves nothing. Similar to original Puma, that was an unappealing car too. Maybe because I think the ugliest car ever to the point I want to puke is the 1st gen Juke, that is one hell of an ugly car and the Puma does resemble it. New model Juke isn’t so bad. The Mazda CX3, yes vastly superior is very nice apart from the stupid ugly plastic things around the wheel arches, I know of a chap who got them painted body colour before he collected it! The real stand out cars for looks these days are Renault, Peugeot and some Kia/Hyundai versions.
Yes I hear the thing about getting in and out, and the slightly better leg room jacked up cars can give if it’s required. But all else about a conventional hatchback is better. Drive and economy being the most obvious, so a couple of seconds getting in and out isn’t an issue to me. Never was for 100 years.
The freezing (any car will freeze on inside if its damp and below 0) and condensation is weird and had to be a leak somewhere or the condenser was ( if your a a/c permanently on person) collecting large amounts of water due to your area, just a more powerful a/c. Fix is simple, turn it off apart from on hot days! Would you put your house a/c on in winter if you had it?
I always thought that the advice was to leave your a/c on permanently to avoid the seals drying out (or something like that). Or am I wrong ?
Certainly in the last 20 years I have never turned the ac off in any car I have owned.
4251 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 22, 2024 8:51 am
One thing ive never found is looking at a Puma and thinking it is a good looking car, the front is gross ugly the rear ok. And the interior - especially new version - improves nothing. Similar to original Puma, that was an unappealing car too. Maybe because I think the ugliest car ever to the point I want to puke is the 1st gen Juke, that is one hell of an ugly car and the Puma does resemble it. New model Juke isn’t so bad. The Mazda CX3, yes vastly superior is very nice apart from the stupid ugly plastic things around the wheel arches, I know of a chap who got them painted body colour before he collected it! The real stand out cars for looks these days are Renault, Peugeot and some Kia/Hyundai versions.
Yes I hear the thing about getting in and out, and the slightly better leg room jacked up cars can give if it’s required. But all else about a conventional hatchback is better. Drive and economy being the most obvious, so a couple of seconds getting in and out isn’t an issue to me. Never was for 100 years.
The freezing (any car will freeze on inside if its damp and below 0) and condensation is weird and had to be a leak somewhere or the condenser was ( if your a a/c permanently on person) collecting large amounts of water due to your area, just a more powerful a/c. Fix is simple, turn it off apart from on hot days! Would you put your house a/c on in winter if you had it?
I always thought that the advice was to leave your a/c on permanently to avoid the seals drying out (or something like that). Or am I wrong ?
Certainly in the last 20 years I have never turned the ac off in any car I have owned.
The advice is to leave the AC on all the time to keep the seals lubricated.
