Glovebox light (lack of)

[Wowzz]

Approx 5% on average, usually more on small engined cars and less on larger engined cars. Obviously the highest consumption is in warm weather

So you are saying I'm going to get an extra 2mpg by turning my ac off ? Sorry, I'm keeping mine on !

[Wowzz]

Here's the RAC view
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/car- ... hs-busted/

Here Honest Johns view
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/answ ... itched-on-

Here's Halfords view
https://blog.halfords.com/why-you-shoul ... in-winter/

Here's Elite Garages view
https://www.elitegarages.co.uk/2021/11/ ... -in-winter

Found loads like these but looks like they are all giving bad advice.

It's coming up to 6 years now with my Kuga. AC always on summer and winter, still blows cold enough in summer to make my hands numb and guess how many times it's been re-gassed...yep, none. I guess car manufacturers just put a better system on what would have been a lot more expensive car when it was new.

There's nothing wrong for those who want to turn it off but if you leave it off through winter you are maybe asking for trouble but then who needs it in a car in the summer when you can open a window. Not like it's much noisier in a Puma lol

My thoughts exactly. Can't see any downsides to keeping the AC on.

[4251]

Approx 5% on average, usually more on small engined cars and less on larger engined cars. Obviously the highest consumption is in warm weather

So you are saying I'm going to get an extra 2mpg by turning my ac off ? Sorry, I'm keeping mine on !

It’s up to, feel free to waste fuel for zero gain. Being an engineer I think a bit differently, if that mindset was applied universally and by us, the world would be in a far bigger mess.

[Ron240]

I have been following this 'air con' debate with interest, so here is how I look at it...
The overall majority of advice from reputable sources recommends keeping your climate control set to auto all year round and lists reasons why it can be beneficial in the long term.
Yes in doing so it will incur an additional cost in increased fuel usage. The actual cost can vary depending on your driving habits, but at best it will be minimal.
Now given the warnings about not 'regularly' using your air con you need to balance the potential risk in your head whether you believe it or not, so this is why I always keep my climate control set to auto and let the system do its thing.

This has been a massive off topic debate, but think we have pretty much covered the glovebox light (lack of) issue by now anyway.

[4251]

If you listen sheepish none technical inept journalists , yes that is the consensus. I just happen to know and have proved without any doubt in my mind it is complete and utter nonsense. There is zero risk and it’s actually beneficial to only use it when required. I do turn mine on for approx 10 mins or so about once a month in winter. Do as you wish , it only affects yourself and the planet in this case. Manufactures go to great lengths to shave off small amounts of fuel consumption, 5% is huge in their eyes!

[Smartguy67]

What was this thread about again, oh yes glove box light. Ford designed one, the bean counter took it away. The design engineer thought it required, but the academic knew better.

Least my car is "lighter" now without one.

[Wowzz]

If you listen sheepish none technical inept journalists , yes that is the consensus. I just happen to know and have proved without any doubt in my mind it is complete and utter nonsense. There is zero risk and it’s actually beneficial to only use it when required. I do turn mine on for approx 10 mins or so about once a month in winter. Do as you wish , it only affects yourself and the planet in this case. Manufactures go to great lengths to shave off small amounts of fuel consumption, 5% is huge in their eyes!

So, basically everyone else is wrong, and in your mind you are right .
I think I'll go with all the experts, rather than one individual with only anecdotal evidence based on a sample size of two, or is it three ?

[4251]

If you listen sheepish none technical inept journalists , yes that is the consensus. I just happen to know and have proved without any doubt in my mind it is complete and utter nonsense. There is zero risk and it’s actually beneficial to only use it when required. I do turn mine on for approx 10 mins or so about once a month in winter. Do as you wish , it only affects yourself and the planet in this case. Manufactures go to great lengths to shave off small amounts of fuel consumption, 5% is huge in their eyes!

So, basically everyone else is wrong, and in your mind you are right .
I think I'll go with all the experts, rather than one individual with only anecdotal evidence based on a sample size of two, or is it three ?

Everybody and sample size of two? Your making it up now, sample size is many dozens over many 100k’s Go with who you please if your unable to work it out for yourself , I don’t give a stuff what you do.

[Wowzz]

Approx 5% on average, usually more on small engined cars and less on larger engined cars. Obviously the highest consumption is in warm weather

If you listen sheepish none technical inept journalists , yes that is the consensus. I just happen to know and have proved without any doubt in my mind it is complete and utter nonsense. There is zero risk and it’s actually beneficial to only use it when required. I do turn mine on for approx 10 mins or so about once a month in winter. Do as you wish , it only affects yourself and the planet in this case. Manufactures go to great lengths to shave off small amounts of fuel consumption, 5% is huge in their eyes!

So, basically everyone else is wrong, and in your mind you are right .
I think I'll go with all the experts, rather than one individual with only anecdotal evidence based on a sample size of two, or is it three ?

Everybody and sample size of two? Your making it up now, sample size is many dozens over many 100k’s Go with who you please if your unable to work it out for yourself , I don’t give a stuff what you do.

Suddenly your sample size is dozens, and thousands of miles !
As an engineer you have obviously got all the information on hand about the air condition failing on these 50, 60 or 70 (?l) cars failing after you have been driving them all for tens of thousands of miles. And all in what, five years ?
But I agree - I don't give a stuff about whst you do either, especially in the light of your last rant, which is obviously hyperbole.

[4251]

Ive had over 100 cars, run 4 at a time, and travelled well over 1,000,000 miles in that time, up to 60k per annum currently around 25k per annum. Many cars were traded with over 100,000 miles from new. Never have I had to re-gas any of the cars I got from new, only used, usually with less than 30,000 miles and up to 4 years old. I have enough evidence imho.