New Puma facelift, so excited!

[4251]

Hang on, you said 1.5 Kuga engines up to 2018. That 4 cylinder engine is no more! Has nothing whatsoever in common with any current Puma or Focus or Kuga engines. The 1.5 Dragon used in these cars is a 3 cylinder engine

[Smartguy67]

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

I've had mine about three weeks now and i have started to really enjoy driving it now.
As i said in an earlier post the first thing i noticed was the road noise but i don't notice it so much when i'm on a major road as opposed to just driving it around town.
It seems a lot "nippier" than the Mokka i had been driving.
I do like the new dashboard and infotainment screen and i am getting used to the non physical buttons.
A few trivial negatives:I used to like the change gear sign which came with the Mokka as it was pretty spot on.On the puma i just disregard it as it says to change gear to quickly.ie asking me to change up to sixth gear when i'm only doing fifty mph.The other thing is i like to leave the screen on map but when i start the Puma it reverts back to the old screen and i have to start mucking around with it to get back to maps.
Oh and one last thing the chiming when you are going over the speed limit isn't as bad as i thought it was going to be and i've just got used to it.
Overall i am very pleased with the puma and i don't regret at all buying it.

Yes you shouldn’t need a nanny aid to tell when to change gear, but equally you cannot set a definitive speed as a time to change gear either, it depends on engine load and terrain exactly the same as the other 5. But 6th gear at 50 is certainly not extreme. Cruising along you should be able to use 6th gear way slower than that, it isn’t an overdrive it’s simply top gear.

Road noise is from the poor bushing of the suspension allowing tyre noise into the car, Vauxhall have always been better in this dept. I would think if it’s regularly chiming at you for speeding maybe you need to slow down? Can you not add a couple of mph to the trigger point, you can on the pre current effort, which the corrects the fast reading speedometer

Sorry but select gear 6th gear when you are doing 50mph or less in the Puma and the engine will be labouring and screaming change down.As i said before i now disregard it.

[4251]

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Thats the 4 cylinder EOL engines

[Smartguy67]

@4251 - I think you have lost track somewhere. This goes back to where you said what nugget thought of analogue dials with no numbers. I responded with the same nugget that designs parcel shelves, the early powershift and the 1.5 petrol with coolant issues.

You asked what is the 1.5 coolant issue. I responded with the 1.5 engine fitted to the Kuga up until 2018. I then went onto say the engine was dropped after 2019 in favour of the 3 cylinder dragon engine.

You then asked where has that info come from hence my links.

It's all relative to the "nuggets" who design things at Ford which are a bad design.

In summary I think this thread has been derailed a little as it's reference the new Puma facelift so I may just have to pop along to mg local dealer and take a look.

[Ron240]

Sorry but select gear 6th gear when you are doing 50mph or less in the Puma and the engine will be labouring and screaming change down.

I appreciate it's not the same but the 1.5 ST will quite happily cruise at 50mph in 6th and even accelerate gently should you want to.
50mph in 6th equates to just under 2000rpm, with 53mph being exactly 2000.
I personally wouldn't use 6th at less than 50mph though.

[Pbirdman]

The Eco coach in my 155 Vignale Manuel (23) tells me to change up gear at the following:
2>3 at 17 mph
3>4 at 27 mph
4>5 at 30 mph
5>6 at 40 mph

TBH I've never seen any negative impact on driving at 30 mph in 5th gear
True the acceleration wont be great for the initial burst if you put your foot down and it may cause a little more petrol usage if used for that (although the electric assist can mitigate some of that)
But driving in a 30 zone in 5th gear at 30 mph seems quite quiet and steady and I do it quite often if I'm on a road that doesn't require me to repeatedly keep slowing down/accelerating - in that case i'd be in 4th gear (or appropriate gear)

[Ron240]

The Eco coach in my 155 Vignale Manual tells me to change up gear at the following:
5>6 at 40 mph

I have just tested that in my car and 40mph in 6th is 1500rpm, but even with the additional torque of the 1.5 engine that is just far too low.

[Pbirdman]

Makes you wonder why it tells you to do it at that point if it's far too low?

There must be a reason in ford eyes

[Smartguy67]

You don't really want to be labouring an engine that has a DGi engine (direct gasoline injection). Have a Google of DGi and LSPi. Vauxhall to name one manufacturer has had an issue with this and my daughter's car suffered a suspected cracked piston / piston ring because of it. The dealer told me not to run it on E10, to use Dextros 2 oil and not drive it in too high a gear. They said it needed a new engine. A few years back now and the car was only 4 years old with 32k miles. Luckily she managed to part exchange it.